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how much money have you sent the government? >> a little bit over $3,000. >> reporter: $3,197.88, to be exact. all tracked on a handwritten ledger. for the last three years, garcia has been paying the government $50 a month of his postal service pension and money from cans he collects. >> we are paying absolutely too much interest, too much interest. >> reporter: it really bothers you? >> it bothers me, because it makes no sense. >> reporter: sense is something garcia's wife of 59 years thinks her husband could use. do you think he is crazy? >> well -- >> reporter: call him crazy. but there is an entire federal office, the bureau of public debt that collects money from hundreds of mr. garcias. this office in parkersburg, west virginia, was set up by president kennedy so citizens could pay down the national debt. this year alone it collected 7.7 million in gifts, about 90 million since it was established. but 90 million is not that much, especially when you consider the federal deficit is $16 trillion and climbing. to retire the
how much money have you sent the government? >> a little bit over $3,000. >> reporter: $3,197.88, to be exact. all tracked on a handwritten ledger. for the last three years, garcia has been paying the government $50 a month of his postal service pension and money from cans he collects. >> we are paying absolutely too much interest, too much interest. >> reporter: it really bothers you? >> it bothers me, because it makes no sense. >> reporter: sense is...
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we hate government, we don't want government. and we were elected on a very ideological platform of shrinking the federal government. of kind of an anti-government obsession, of the sort that we haven't seen in this country in decades. >> all right. well, we're looking for the isaac newton to free us from that gravitational pull of these republican ideologues. robert reich, thank you so very much. and our sincere apologies to amanda turco of "the huffington post," who was unable to join us due to technical difficulties beyond our control. >>> up next, america's murder capital. what makes this city so much more violent than los angeles and new york? we'll talk about the guns and the attitudes. >>> and the country re-elected its first african-american president. yet that hasn't stopped some from engaging in hate speech and racist stunts. we'll talk about this mannequin and much more. >>> please, stop the killering. >> guys see what happened? huh? you didn't see what happened? >> he don't do nothing wrong. >> i can't take this! he d
we hate government, we don't want government. and we were elected on a very ideological platform of shrinking the federal government. of kind of an anti-government obsession, of the sort that we haven't seen in this country in decades. >> all right. well, we're looking for the isaac newton to free us from that gravitational pull of these republican ideologues. robert reich, thank you so very much. and our sincere apologies to amanda turco of "the huffington post," who was unable...
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the government. the government is sig bbigger, unless we do something it will get bigger and the deficit will get bigger even if we raise taxes on everybody. we still have a huge deficit. if we do not take on spending, then the cliff may not seem like a cliff but will be a downward slide to make us like greece. no lodnger a viable economic power. >> hang on. we'll continue this. we have to take a quick break. the fiscal cliff has the president sounding like new york yankees legend yoeg gi ber ra. >> this is deja shz vu all over again. americans want to know why you can't get stuff down in an organized timetable. >> so if we all saw it coming, why did congress wait so long to do something about it? why do toys for tots and hasbro trust duracell to power their donated toys? duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. anyone have occasional constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiot
the government. the government is sig bbigger, unless we do something it will get bigger and the deficit will get bigger even if we raise taxes on everybody. we still have a huge deficit. if we do not take on spending, then the cliff may not seem like a cliff but will be a downward slide to make us like greece. no lodnger a viable economic power. >> hang on. we'll continue this. we have to take a quick break. the fiscal cliff has the president sounding like new york yankees legend yoeg gi...
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people who believe in government will remember it. people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who respects the voter and who thumbs his nose at the voter. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it will be tolling for you. leading off tonight, josh green and chris frates of "national journal." you don't have to be as clear as i but try, gentlemen, tonight. it looks to me like one party, once again it's asymmetric. both parties are not screwing around, one is. is that true? >> i think both parties want to go over the cliff. >> both want to go over the cliff? who will get blamed? >> i think republicans will get blamed, but i think republicans at this point fear casting a career-threatening vote to raise taxes instead of waiting four days and letting the cliff -- >> and then they can technically say -- >> they're voting for a tax cut. >> do they presume t
people who believe in government will remember it. people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who respects the voter and who thumbs his nose at the voter. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it will be tolling for you. leading off tonight, josh green and chris frates of "national journal." you...
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it gives the government more money and will put off the actual kind of "d" day for the u.s. defaulting on its debt, only by a week or so. but, again, the real thing that should be scaring everybody is the thing that's coming in a couple of months. >> you know, we heard the president talking today about how mind boggling this is. you know, that normal people don't resolve their differences this way. i don't know how you can shuffle around money. that really is mind boggling. thank you. up next, the nra's response to gun violence? what else, more guns. the new battle over gun violence with chris matthews. you're watching "hardball" the place for politics. [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8. or...try kids boxes! i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy bro
it gives the government more money and will put off the actual kind of "d" day for the u.s. defaulting on its debt, only by a week or so. but, again, the real thing that should be scaring everybody is the thing that's coming in a couple of months. >> you know, we heard the president talking today about how mind boggling this is. you know, that normal people don't resolve their differences this way. i don't know how you can shuffle around money. that really is mind boggling....
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based on an ideology that calls for government to be as small as possible. the roots are as old as american politics, but philosophy's main spokesman is this man. grove norquist, whose pledge signed by almost all republicans in congress forbid them from raising taxes ever under any circumstances. things come to a head in the summer of 2011. republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nations's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability to borrow money. they deploy the tactics that nearly shut down the government and ultimaty cost america its aaa credit rating for the first time in history. in a last minute compromise, both sides agree to a trillion dollars in spending cuts up front and another $1.2 trillion in cuts to be decided by a special congressional super committee. a poison pill was attached. if the super committee can't reach a deal, automatic across the board cuts known as the sequester would go into effect starting january 2013. at the exact moment when the bush tax cuts extended for two ye
based on an ideology that calls for government to be as small as possible. the roots are as old as american politics, but philosophy's main spokesman is this man. grove norquist, whose pledge signed by almost all republicans in congress forbid them from raising taxes ever under any circumstances. things come to a head in the summer of 2011. republicans demand the government reduce its deficit as a condition for raising the nations's debt ceiling. without a deal, the u.s. would lose its ability...
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the tea party will not act to keep the government going. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> still no word on who may inherit john kerry's senate seat now that he's been nominated tr secretary of state. we know who won't. ted kennedy jr. says he won't run for the massachusetts seat because he considers connecticut his home. >>> and it looks like ben affleck is sticking to life in hollywood instead of heading to washington. the star of argo, a great movie, says that he quote, loves the political process but i'm not running for office. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] feeling like a shadow of your former self? c'mon, michael! get in the game! [ male announcer ] don't have the hops for hoops with your buddies? lost your appetite for romance? and your mood is on its way down. you might not just be getting older. you might have a treatable condition called low testosterone or low t. millions of men, forty-five or older, may have low t. so talk to your doctor about low t. hey, michael! [ male announcer ] and step out of the sha
the tea party will not act to keep the government going. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> still no word on who may inherit john kerry's senate seat now that he's been nominated tr secretary of state. we know who won't. ted kennedy jr. says he won't run for the massachusetts seat because he considers connecticut his home. >>> and it looks like ben affleck is sticking to life in hollywood instead of heading to washington. the star of argo, a great movie,...
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if you transfer $10,000 of your money, it triggers your bank that goes to the federal government. but you can go online and with free holiday shipping purchase a high capacity magazine. even the law enforcement in the communities have no way of know ing a large number of weapons, perhaps a bullet proof vest. that might send off a few alarms. making it harder to sexercise te right to vote. we should think that people are more responsible owning a gun than casting a ballot. that is part of what is being revealed. >> i want to go to one other finding in this study about this. it is about the notion of people need guns for protection. >> there is no evidence that a gun in the home reduces the likelihood of severe iity durin break in. it is actually going to be usable in a way that will protect you. >> to the contrary. those same studies have shown, they are are more likely to go through if there is a gun in the house. what is more likely to happen is you are going to get shot. what happened is, they didn't kill the shooter. the shooter killed themselves. they were in able to get to it
if you transfer $10,000 of your money, it triggers your bank that goes to the federal government. but you can go online and with free holiday shipping purchase a high capacity magazine. even the law enforcement in the communities have no way of know ing a large number of weapons, perhaps a bullet proof vest. that might send off a few alarms. making it harder to sexercise te right to vote. we should think that people are more responsible owning a gun than casting a ballot. that is part of what...
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that's when the government reaches its legal borrowing limit. the government can operate for a few weeks using emergency measures, but congress needs to act quickly to avoid a full-blown crisis. i tried weight loss plans... but their shakes aren't always made for people with diabetes. that's why there's glucerna hunger smart shakes. they have carb steady, with carbs that digest slowly to help minimize blood sugar spikes. and they have six grams of sugars. with fifteen grams of protein to help manage hunger... look who's getting smart about her weight. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. a smart way to help manage hunger and diabetes. [ male announcer ] glucerna hunger smart. [music: artist: willy moon ♪ everybody well don't you know it's me now? ♪ ♪ yeah who's it, who's it huh? ♪ ♪ willy's back with a brand new beat now, ♪ ♪ yeah doin' it doin' it up! ♪ heyyy yeah, tryin' to bite my style! ♪ ♪ heyyy yeah, how you like me now? ♪ ♪ na na na na na na na na ♪ and everybody go uh! neural speeds increasing to 4g lte. br
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all of them mean we have less revenue to support the operations of government, so if going forward we're going to reach a balance, where we both cut spending and raise revenue, we have to achieve the right balance of those, so if there are folks in the other party, the republican party, who feel strongly that we should not allow income tax breaks of the last decade to continue, that's fine. i think they simply need to be willing to balance that with some of the democratic priorities like extending unemployment insurance benefits for nearly 2 million unemployed americans who will lose them tomorrow. >> thank you senator chris coons for joining us. >> thank you. >> coming up, former president george h.w. bush is out of icu, and the how the oak ridge boys may have helped lift his spirits. >>> and with less than 30 hours to go before the fiscal cliff, we're watching capitol hill for any kinds of a deal today. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. mine was earned off vietnam in 1968. over the south pacific in 1943. i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down fr
all of them mean we have less revenue to support the operations of government, so if going forward we're going to reach a balance, where we both cut spending and raise revenue, we have to achieve the right balance of those, so if there are folks in the other party, the republican party, who feel strongly that we should not allow income tax breaks of the last decade to continue, that's fine. i think they simply need to be willing to balance that with some of the democratic priorities like...
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>> it's odd because grover was the one sort of outside government institution on the conservative side who agreed with speaker boehner's plan "b" which would have allowed taxes to go up above $1 million in income. all the other conservative groups say no. i think grover's pledge, i don't know where it goes from here. obviously is doesn't have as much teeth as is it did because there are people who are willing to buck it. >> i think the key thing with the grover pledge though is that republicans feel like they're in such a corner here, the house is in disarray, boehner doesn't really know where his caucus is going to go. they're not really worried about grover's pledge. they're more worried about rebuilding the party and surviving this horrible moment when they barely control one chamber. >> okay. so i want to run this by you. charles krauthammer from "the washington post" has suggested this kind of complicated theory that the president has a bigger plan here. wonder if we can play this tape of what he says the president's strategy is. >> he's been using this, and i must say with great
>> it's odd because grover was the one sort of outside government institution on the conservative side who agreed with speaker boehner's plan "b" which would have allowed taxes to go up above $1 million in income. all the other conservative groups say no. i think grover's pledge, i don't know where it goes from here. obviously is doesn't have as much teeth as is it did because there are people who are willing to buck it. >> i think the key thing with the grover pledge...
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he heads an entirely separate branch of government with an altogether different purpose. i think we need to go back to the way the government was designed to operate, and that is the deliberative function, in the legislative branch, both the house and the senate, acting independently. and then resolving their differences through conference. that process works, it works very well. this business of a couple of legislative leaders and the president going behind closed doors, coming up with some clever scheme, and then dropping it in the laps of the congress for a take it or leave it vote produces bad policy. in fact, bad process always produces bad policy, and that's what we're seeing. >> congressman, we've been seeing virtually no progress to date, but i hope folks have your optimism about not going over the cliff because of the disastrous implications. congressman mcclintock, thanks for coming on. >>> chuck hagel hasn't even been formally nominated to be the next defense secretary, and he's already taking right hooks from members of his own party, but do the attacks add up
he heads an entirely separate branch of government with an altogether different purpose. i think we need to go back to the way the government was designed to operate, and that is the deliberative function, in the legislative branch, both the house and the senate, acting independently. and then resolving their differences through conference. that process works, it works very well. this business of a couple of legislative leaders and the president going behind closed doors, coming up with some...
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, that we actually pay our bills as a government, that we find a balanced approach going forward. john boehner knows the votes from some of the republicans and some of the democrats can happen. and he's been unwilling to do that. >> do you think it's good -- >> it's hurting this country. >> is it good at this point in the process for harry reid to go on the senator floor and bash speaker boehner? does that not send a message this close to the deadline? >> he's trying to make it clear and i'm trying to make it clear that john boehner can't just say i'm not in there. of course, he is a player in this. if he does not work with the senate, work with the president and, again, the president has time and time again said we have some common ground here. if the republicans do agree, and they say they do, that they do not want to see tax rates go up on the american people, well, the president said let's make sure that we vote on that. 98% of americans can be protected from a tax increase. we can protect seniors under medicare by making sure that 30% cut to the providers don't go through. th
, that we actually pay our bills as a government, that we find a balanced approach going forward. john boehner knows the votes from some of the republicans and some of the democrats can happen. and he's been unwilling to do that. >> do you think it's good -- >> it's hurting this country. >> is it good at this point in the process for harry reid to go on the senator floor and bash speaker boehner? does that not send a message this close to the deadline? >> he's trying to...
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a government spokesman says the former south african president is receiving treatment at his home. mandela is said to be resting and in good spirits. bye dad. drive safe. k. love you. [ chirping, buzzing continues ] [ horn honks ] [ buzzing continues ] [ male announcer ] the sprint drive first app. blocks and replies to texts while you drive. we can live without the &. visit sprint.com/drive. ♪ you make me happy when skies are gray ♪ [ female announcer ] you know exactly what it takes to make them feel better. ♪ you make me happy [ female announcer ] that's why you choose children's tylenol. the same brand your mom trusted for you when you were young. ♪ how much i love you [ humming ] [ female announcer ] children's tylenol, the #1 brand of pain and fever relief recommended by pediatricians and used by moms decade after decade. [ humming ] >>> we have this just in to cnn. you're looking live at air force one as it lands. just back from hawaii. the president had to cut short his vacation there. his holiday vacation so he could deal with the looming fiscal cliff. all eyes are
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a crisis of self-government. we have had divided government that's worked beautifully before. we have got the marshall brandon, the highway system, civil rights bills in the 1960s, lbj as president, dirkson in the senate. we have done this before, all the accomplishments of the reagan era this disfunction is something new, the result of the polarization, party he is being more polarized than ever before, the increased power of the professional partisan activist class, actively arguing on other side to not make a deal saying a bad deal is worse than no deal, go over the cliff. these voices have real influence right now and you they are causing economic calamity to our country. they are making us look foolish. they are making us look unable to self-govern in a constructive way, let alone serve -- solve long-term problems, which is what we elect them for. people should be furious that we are here 36 hours with no deal on the fiscal cliff. >> i have no doubt they are. john avlon, thanks very much, as always, for the insight. thank you. >>> a fiscal fight. it is happening right now
a crisis of self-government. we have had divided government that's worked beautifully before. we have got the marshall brandon, the highway system, civil rights bills in the 1960s, lbj as president, dirkson in the senate. we have done this before, all the accomplishments of the reagan era this disfunction is something new, the result of the polarization, party he is being more polarized than ever before, the increased power of the professional partisan activist class, actively arguing on other...
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if you transfer $10,000 of your money, it triggers your bank that goes to the federal government. but you can go online and with free holiday shipping purchase a high capacity magazine. even the law enforcement in the communities have no way of know ing a large number of weapons, perhaps a bullet proof vest. that might send off a few alarms. making it harder to exercise the right to vote. we should think that people are more responsible owning a gun than casting a ballot. that is part of what is being revealed. >> i want to go to one other finding in this study about this. it is about the notion of people need guns for protection. >> there is no evidence that a gun in the home reduces the likelihood of severity during a break in. it is actually going to be usable in a way that will protect you. >> to the contrary. those same studies have shown, they are are more likely to go through if there is a gun in the house. what is more likely to happen is you are going to get shot. what happened is, they didn't kill the shooter. the shooter killed themselves. they were in able to get to it
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but this is a terrible way to govern and a terrible way to run our government. any business likes to have some way of planning. so do government agencies. by having these deadlines makes it hard for people who are trying to make the government work. >> always great to talk to you, my friend. thank you. >> thank you. >>> much more ahead as the nation inches forwards the everyone of the fiscal cliff. and at the top of the hour, david gregory's interview made news from "meet the press." that's coming up, too. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. if we took the already great sentra apart and com
but this is a terrible way to govern and a terrible way to run our government. any business likes to have some way of planning. so do government agencies. by having these deadlines makes it hard for people who are trying to make the government work. >> always great to talk to you, my friend. thank you. >> thank you. >>> much more ahead as the nation inches forwards the everyone of the fiscal cliff. and at the top of the hour, david gregory's interview made news from...
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, will find out they're getting less money back from the federal government. so that's why in some cases some of the lowest income earning people will be impacted even more than some of the people in the middle because they will find that they're getting substantially less back from the government. we're going to bring you some more scenarios. the link to this is up at my facebook and twitter @jo @joshlevscnn and see how it would affect you and use that to influence your understanding of what would happen if we go over the cliff. >> josh levs not kicking the can down the road. >> not once. >>> it is a story you have to see to believe. ahead a mom and her kids reunited after nearly a week all thanks to a cnn viewer. i just u. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. sounds a little too good to be true sir. i'll believe that when pigs fly. ok, did she seriously just say that? geico. just click away with our free mobile app. >>> we're going to get back to the hill gothss in just a minute
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governments cut social programs to save money. it was meant to help and hurt by spreading the recession. here's richard quest in london. >> reporter: suzanne, the story of europe in 2012 was very much the austerity, the gut-wrenching, grinding austerity. some countries like greece faced multi-year recession and slowdown, unemployment at over 25%, youth unemployment over 50%. what we saw was the recession expanding. spain, italy, the uk, all found austerity taking its toll even more as unemployment continued to rise in some of those countries. even the large country, the economic powerhouse germany found its slelf slowing down. the root cause of it all was the inability of the european governments to come to policies to get growth started again. towards the middle and end of the year they did, but the tale was style there. very much austerity again and again. perhaps if there was only one change that took place as we moved into the fall and into the winter. it was the realization that most of these countries could take no more aust
governments cut social programs to save money. it was meant to help and hurt by spreading the recession. here's richard quest in london. >> reporter: suzanne, the story of europe in 2012 was very much the austerity, the gut-wrenching, grinding austerity. some countries like greece faced multi-year recession and slowdown, unemployment at over 25%, youth unemployment over 50%. what we saw was the recession expanding. spain, italy, the uk, all found austerity taking its toll even more as...
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this is about government's role in your life. democrats want more of a social safety net, republicans prioritize lower taxes. and that's what distinguishes the democratic and the republican parties sop so that's what they're fundamentally fighting about. if you break it down to the basic deal points right now, democrats say this smaller deal should include a tax increase for households that make $250,000 and more. an extension of unemployment benefits as you pointed out for about 2 million americans, a delay of those massive spending cuts we've all talked about, an increase in the estate tax. republicans say in this deal what they would prefer to see is a limit in the tax increase for the highest earners and a way to avoid that estate tax increase. no delay in those spending cuts so they can argue about that as leverage in the new year and find a way to pay for those unemployment benefits because republicans prefer if we're going to spend, fiend a way to pay for it, don't add to our deficit. martin? >> so let's just say that sena
this is about government's role in your life. democrats want more of a social safety net, republicans prioritize lower taxes. and that's what distinguishes the democratic and the republican parties sop so that's what they're fundamentally fighting about. if you break it down to the basic deal points right now, democrats say this smaller deal should include a tax increase for households that make $250,000 and more. an extension of unemployment benefits as you pointed out for about 2 million...
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in fact, the defense department, the irs and other government agencies are planning no immediate changes because they're anticipating some kind of deal. that leaves the unemployed, extended unemployment insurance will expire immediately if we go over the cliff. a deal later in january could theoretically restore extended benefits, the immediate damage will have already been done. for many people, this is all an interesting charade. but for the unemployed it's the real deal. get your cell phones out, i want to know what you think. tonight's question, who will the public blame if we go over the fiscal cliff? text a for democrats, text b for republicans to 622329. i'll bring you the results later in the show. >>> joining me now is congressman elijah cummings of maryland. welcome to the show. >> it's good to be with you. >> what do you make of the latest posturing. the house will they reconvene before january? they have a lot of stuff to do, so clearly they can't make it back to d.c. to do the people's business. >> as you said a few minutes ago, we have been assured we would be given at leas
in fact, the defense department, the irs and other government agencies are planning no immediate changes because they're anticipating some kind of deal. that leaves the unemployed, extended unemployment insurance will expire immediately if we go over the cliff. a deal later in january could theoretically restore extended benefits, the immediate damage will have already been done. for many people, this is all an interesting charade. but for the unemployed it's the real deal. get your cell phones...
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i'm increasing my interest because these guys can't run a government. you're looking toward going to a recession while we're playing politic s in washington. this is very serious. this is not just beltway rhetoric here. i think people need to understand to the point of calling their congressional representative in outrage today, saying we should not be at this point. they're playing politics with the actual livelihood of families. this is not something that -- it would be all right a week or two or three or four. we start going down the cliff, we don't know whether the momentum downward is going to be very, very damaging. >> yeah. maybe. >> you have that smirk on your face. >> well, maybe. i agree with the reverend that they're playing politics with livelihoods because it is a huge risk. you're right about that. i disagree a little bit on the sort of dramatic immediate impact of it. what we could get -- this is a responsibility, what we could get. i'm just trying to be optimistic because it's toward the end of the year and it's been a crummy year for a
i'm increasing my interest because these guys can't run a government. you're looking toward going to a recession while we're playing politic s in washington. this is very serious. this is not just beltway rhetoric here. i think people need to understand to the point of calling their congressional representative in outrage today, saying we should not be at this point. they're playing politics with the actual livelihood of families. this is not something that -- it would be all right a week or...
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what they campaigned against was spending money on government, that is what taxes are. got it? and that's hardball for now, thanks for being with us "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to the ed show. i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. the president cuts his vacation short to come back to washington, d.c., meanwhile, house republicans are literally phoning it in, this is the ed show, and as ed would say, let's get to work. >> this is something within our capacity to solve. it doesn't take that much work, we just have to do the right thing. >> six days away from the fiscal cliff and there are real consequences to millions of americans if no deal is cut. congressman elijah cummings and ryan grim of the huffington post are here with the latest. a tea party giant stages a coupe with his own office. the details on dick armey's hostile takeover. the nra is catching heat from all directions. >> i don't think the nra is listening, i don't think they understand. >> georgetown university law professor, david cole on the growing drum
what they campaigned against was spending money on government, that is what taxes are. got it? and that's hardball for now, thanks for being with us "the ed show" with ed schultz starts right now. >>> good evening, americans, welcome to the ed show. i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. the president cuts his vacation short to come back to washington, d.c., meanwhile, house republicans are literally phoning it in, this is the ed show, and as ed would say, let's get to...
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, then they cannot govern. it's like if you have a peanut allergy, okay. you can't get a job making reece's pieces. or if you have a religious prohibition against you operating modern motor vehicles. that's neat. but then you cannot get a job as a bus driver. if john boehner's job is making governing policy, and if john boehner is bad at that job because republicans in washington are now existentially politically incapable of making governing policy, that's against who they are and they won't survive if they prove that is who they are, then what we have as a country is not just a john boehner is bad at his job problem. this is a problem for which we may need to find the serenity and certainty that it will not change. john boehner's job as speaker of the house will be subject to a vote on january 3rd. you might think his speakership might be in danger given how he has performed in the job. but as of yet, no named other republican is challenging him for the job. maybe that's because whoever is holding the job, th
, then they cannot govern. it's like if you have a peanut allergy, okay. you can't get a job making reece's pieces. or if you have a religious prohibition against you operating modern motor vehicles. that's neat. but then you cannot get a job as a bus driver. if john boehner's job is making governing policy, and if john boehner is bad at that job because republicans in washington are now existentially politically incapable of making governing policy, that's against who they are and they won't...
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, then they cannot govern. it's like if you have a peanut allergy, okay. you can't get a job making reese's pieces. or if you have a religious prohibition against you operating modern motor vehicles. that's neat. but then you cannot get a job as a bus driver. if john boehner's job is making governing policy, and if john boehner is bad at that job because republicans in washington are now existentially politically incapable of making governing policy, that's against who they are and they won't survive if they prove that is who they are, then what we have as a country is not just a john boehner is bad at his job problem. this is a problem for which we may need to find the serenity and certainty that it will not change. john boehner's job as speaker of the house will be subject to a vote on january 3rd. you might think his speakership might be in danger given how he has performed in the job. but as of yet, no named other republican is challenging him for the job. maybe that's because whoever is holding the job, th
, then they cannot govern. it's like if you have a peanut allergy, okay. you can't get a job making reese's pieces. or if you have a religious prohibition against you operating modern motor vehicles. that's neat. but then you cannot get a job as a bus driver. if john boehner's job is making governing policy, and if john boehner is bad at that job because republicans in washington are now existentially politically incapable of making governing policy, that's against who they are and they won't...
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the russian government says they are willing to accept a trational government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many ininterpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the on voy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very much for joining us. one of the most beautiful words in the epg lash language graphs coming up. my wife takes centrum silver. i've been on the fence about it. then i read an article about a study that looked at the long term health benefits of taking multivitamins. they used centrum silver for the study... so i guess my wife was right. [ male announcer ] centrum. always your most complete. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ mal
the russian government says they are willing to accept a trational government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many ininterpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the on voy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very...
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>>> if you're worried we'll soon be governed by sharia law, have no fear. republicans are keeping us safe from something that was never going to happen anyway. that and other low lights there 2012 in the "sideshow." >>> and finally my hopes for the upcoming year, especially from the president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> massachusetts congressman ed markey announced today his candidacy for the united states senate seat held by john kerry who president obama has nominated for secretary of state. markey is a friend and respected guest on "hardball" and has been in the house since 1976. he's the dean of the massachusetts delegation, and he has the best values of anybody i know in politics. if he gets the democratic nomination for the senate, he could wind up running against scott brown who won the seat in 2010, then lost it last month. the special election is likely to take place this june. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." when john boehner failed to bring his so-called plan "b" to a vote last week because he didn't have
>>> if you're worried we'll soon be governed by sharia law, have no fear. republicans are keeping us safe from something that was never going to happen anyway. that and other low lights there 2012 in the "sideshow." >>> and finally my hopes for the upcoming year, especially from the president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> massachusetts congressman ed markey announced today his candidacy for the united states senate seat held by...
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this right here, it's a story of some government and politics and small town life. mr. fricke, the leading write-in vote getter told "the new york times" that politics has lost his luster, even in small towns. oh, gee, i wonder why. thank you, washington. but it's also a story, an interesting story about unemployment. you have a job available, one that only pays a hundred bucks a month, and nobody wants it. and that in this economy is very, very rare. a job nobody will take. for most available jobs, there are lines out the door of qualified applicants. and that is the most important fact about not just the economy, but about what is happening in washington right now, as we speak. the biggest deal, the biggest problem with a deal that has not been struck in congress is coming up next. hey sis, it's so great to see you. you, too! oh, cloudy glasses. you didn't have to come over! actually, honey, i think i did... oh? you did? whoa, ladies, easy. hi. cascade kitchen counselor. we can help avoid this with cascade complete pacs. see, over time, cascade complete pacs fight fil
this right here, it's a story of some government and politics and small town life. mr. fricke, the leading write-in vote getter told "the new york times" that politics has lost his luster, even in small towns. oh, gee, i wonder why. thank you, washington. but it's also a story, an interesting story about unemployment. you have a job available, one that only pays a hundred bucks a month, and nobody wants it. and that in this economy is very, very rare. a job nobody will take. for most...
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this right here, it's a story of some government and politics and small town life. mr. fricke, the leading write-in vote getter told "the new york times" that politics has lost its luster, even in small towns. oh, gee, i wonder why. thank you, washington. but it's also a story, an interesting story about unemployment. you have a job available, one that only pays a hundred bucks a month, and nobody wants it. and that in this economy is very, very rare. a job nobody will take. for most available jobs, there are lines out the door of qualified applicants. and that is the most important fact about not just the economy, but about what is happening in washington right now, as we speak. the biggest deal, the biggest problem with a deal that has not been struck in congress is coming up next. l doesn't treat . really? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms, plus it relieves your runny nose. [ breathes deeply ] awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is. that's the cold truth! [ coughs ] ♪ [ male announcer ] you can't let a cold keep you up tonight. vi
this right here, it's a story of some government and politics and small town life. mr. fricke, the leading write-in vote getter told "the new york times" that politics has lost its luster, even in small towns. oh, gee, i wonder why. thank you, washington. but it's also a story, an interesting story about unemployment. you have a job available, one that only pays a hundred bucks a month, and nobody wants it. and that in this economy is very, very rare. a job nobody will take. for most...
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, then they cannot govern. it's like if you have a peanut allergy, okay. you can't get a job making reece's piece's. or if you have a religious prohibition against you operating modern motor vehicles. that's neat. but then you cannot get a job as a bus driver. if john boehner's job is making governing policy, and if john boehner is bad at that job because republicans in washington are now existentially politically incapable of making governing policy, that's against who they are and they won't survive if they prove that is who they are, then what we have as a country is not just a john boehner is bad at his job problem. this is a problem for which we may need to find the serenity and certainty that it will not change. john boehner's job as speaker of the house will be subject to a vote on january 3rd. you might think his speakership might be in danger given how he has performed in the job. but as of yet, no named other republican is challenging him for the job. maybe that's because whoever is holding the job, t
, then they cannot govern. it's like if you have a peanut allergy, okay. you can't get a job making reece's piece's. or if you have a religious prohibition against you operating modern motor vehicles. that's neat. but then you cannot get a job as a bus driver. if john boehner's job is making governing policy, and if john boehner is bad at that job because republicans in washington are now existentially politically incapable of making governing policy, that's against who they are and they won't...
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a lot of them want to govern. i think things can happen quickly in january. >> there is a lot of talk with the gop looking ahead to the debt limit when there will be anything substantial don entitlement reform and things of that nature. and how worries are you that we could see a repeat of the possible down great of the u.s. createit rating? >> i'm concerned about it. we reached the debt limit, but tricks we can play to keep the government operating. that looks like no more than 60 days. it's an arbitrary and useless statute. denmark i think is the only other country that has something like that. this would be gamesmanship of the most dangerous kind. i hope nobody is going to play that game. i know the president said he is not going to play that game. if the republicans think they use that as leverage, they do that at their own risk. >> congressman, good luck to the cardinals. take care. >> thank you, luke. >> we are keeping our eye on how the stalemate is playing on wall street and president george hw bush is now
a lot of them want to govern. i think things can happen quickly in january. >> there is a lot of talk with the gop looking ahead to the debt limit when there will be anything substantial don entitlement reform and things of that nature. and how worries are you that we could see a repeat of the possible down great of the u.s. createit rating? >> i'm concerned about it. we reached the debt limit, but tricks we can play to keep the government operating. that looks like no more than 60...
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they say they are a governing party and they right now are causing the government to completely rewire the way that it deals with the deficit. and they say that there is pain in that process. but the long-term debate and the reason why they don't need to be inside the meeting room is they've got so many of the people in that room afraid of them that we are having a debate between how much to cut the deficit and not to do jobs or stimulus and the things paul reuben talks about. >> they've had an impact, but it's not a governing agenda in terms of accomplishments that would get to their goal of deficit reduction and long-term economic growth. >> on that point, why not? >> because they're standing in the way of allowing that to happen. they're saying you can't come to an accommodation on the issue of taxes. if you can't do that, there's no way you can -- >> well, i would disagree with you and disagree with ben a little bit. what they've proved in the fist year is if you do hold certain things hostage, you can get results. and we already have $1 trillion worth of debt reduction because of
they say they are a governing party and they right now are causing the government to completely rewire the way that it deals with the deficit. and they say that there is pain in that process. but the long-term debate and the reason why they don't need to be inside the meeting room is they've got so many of the people in that room afraid of them that we are having a debate between how much to cut the deficit and not to do jobs or stimulus and the things paul reuben talks about. >> they've...
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you keep saying the government is spending too much money. where are you going to get the dollars from? >> well, if you recall, this is columbine deja vu. we had this conversation right after columbine and the clinton administration very appropriately developed the cops in schools program in the justice department and in the past five or six years that -- and this crosses both administrations, it's not a political statement, the last five or six years across multiple congresses, congressional sessions, that money disappeared. even if you could afford -- and i support school resource officer programs. as a father, i can understand, every father would like, you know, a police officer in their school and many parents right now after sandy hook would like a one officer per kid, but my challenge and question is fund it now. if congress throws money when they come back in january at this, what are you doing for sustainability? and, don, you hit it in the head. five years from now, six years from now when the grants run out, how do you sustain that
you keep saying the government is spending too much money. where are you going to get the dollars from? >> well, if you recall, this is columbine deja vu. we had this conversation right after columbine and the clinton administration very appropriately developed the cops in schools program in the justice department and in the past five or six years that -- and this crosses both administrations, it's not a political statement, the last five or six years across multiple congresses,...
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the russian government says they are willing to accept a trational government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many ininterpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the on voy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very much for joining us. one of the most beautiful words in the epg lash language graphs coming up. >>> when i'm not sitting in for rachel i'm at the washington post writing a blog. each year for the end of the year we ask our fellow travelers in the great wide world to send in their favorite graph. north dakota, senator kent conroy he sent a graph this year that was useful on capitol hill this year. it showed the last tax budget we had. five points higher than it was now. tax revenues right now. about the lowest we have seen. you need for laxes to balance the budget. you see the growi
the russian government says they are willing to accept a trational government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many ininterpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the on voy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very...
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it gives the government more money and will put off the actual kind of "d" day for the u.s. defaulting on its debt, only by a week or so. but, again, the real thing that should be scaring everybody is the thing that's coming in a couple of months. >> you know, we heard the president talking today about how mind boggling this is. you know, that normal people don't resolve their differences this way. i don't know how you can shuffle around money. that really is mind boggling. thank you. up next, the nra's response to gun violence? what else, more guns. the new battle over gun violence with chris matthews. you're watching "hardball" the place for politics. >> welcome back to hardball. the tragic school shooting has put renewed focus not just on the guns, but on school safety itself. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. and to do it now. >> but here's what it looks like when you run the numbers. slate magazine took a look at what a program to put armed guards in eve
it gives the government more money and will put off the actual kind of "d" day for the u.s. defaulting on its debt, only by a week or so. but, again, the real thing that should be scaring everybody is the thing that's coming in a couple of months. >> you know, we heard the president talking today about how mind boggling this is. you know, that normal people don't resolve their differences this way. i don't know how you can shuffle around money. that really is mind boggling....
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now, the syrian government has a very different version of events. they say it was armed terrorists in the town that carried out this attack. armed terrorists is the terminology they use to describe opposition and rebel fighters. the syrian government say the residents of that town called for the military to intervene to go in there and help them and help them secure the area. there's been so much international condemnation about the attack that killed as many as 100 people, maybe more than that. the u.s. state department issued a statement yesterday strongly condemning the syrian government for it. that statement went on to say brutal attacks such as these show that this regime has no future in syria. those that commit acrotrocities will be held accountable. the united states calls on all parties that continue to assist regime next cuting its war against the syrian people to end their support. and it was just the next day, just yesterday, that we started hearing about another horrific attack, this time in homs. we started seeing amateur video postin
now, the syrian government has a very different version of events. they say it was armed terrorists in the town that carried out this attack. armed terrorists is the terminology they use to describe opposition and rebel fighters. the syrian government say the residents of that town called for the military to intervene to go in there and help them and help them secure the area. there's been so much international condemnation about the attack that killed as many as 100 people, maybe more than...
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the russian government has to invite them to meet a child to adopt and they're worried. >> now with this new development, it could all come to a screeching halt. >> just from father to father, president putin, i just ask that as a father, just to consider what's happening to the families that are in process. let us at least go through the process and bring home our children. >> that was michelle reporting there. >>> another person pushed in front of a new york city subway tops the look at stories around the "news nation" today. there's video of a woman they say pushed the man in front of a train last night. there she is right there. the victim was killed. witnesses telling police that the woman had been following the man and mumbling under her breath moments before. earlier this month, police say a man was pushed and killed in front of another new york train. a 30-year-old man is charged with murder that case. three police officers of new jersey are in the hospital recovering today after being shot inside a police station this morning. police say the suspect was being processed for domes
the russian government has to invite them to meet a child to adopt and they're worried. >> now with this new development, it could all come to a screeching halt. >> just from father to father, president putin, i just ask that as a father, just to consider what's happening to the families that are in process. let us at least go through the process and bring home our children. >> that was michelle reporting there. >>> another person pushed in front of a new york city...
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the russian government says they are willing to accept a transitional government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many interpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the envoy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very much for joining us. one of the most beautiful words in the english language graphs coming up. [ laughter ] smoke? nah, i'm good. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart control technology that acts fast and helps control cravings all day long. ♪ quit one day at a time with nicoderm cq. >>> when i'm not sitting in for rachel i'm at the washington post writing a blog. each year for the end of the year we ask our fellow travelers in the great wide world to send in their favorite graphs. nor
the russian government says they are willing to accept a transitional government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many interpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the envoy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very...
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the tea party will not act to keep the government going. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> still no word on who may i got mine in iraq, 2003. usaa auto insurance is often handed down from generation to generation. because it offers a superior level of protection, and because usaa's commitment to serve the military, veterans and their families is without equal. begin your legacy, get an auto insurance quote. usaa. we know what it means to serve. aww man. [ male announcer ] returns are easy with free pickup from the u.s. postal service. we'll even drop off boxes if you need them. visit usps.com pay, print, and have it picked up for free. any time of year. ♪ nice sweater. thank you. ♪ >>> still no word on who may inherit john kerry's senate seat now that he's been nominated for secretary of state. we know who won't. ted kennedy jr. says he won't run for the massachusetts seat because he considers connecticut his home. >>> and it looks like ben affleck is sticking to life in hollywood instead of heading to washington. the star
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was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote, and that strategy worked. >> that explanation got mitt romney attacked and condemned by the likes of bobby jindahl and other republicans. they're now trying a new approach. tag romney said this about his father. he wanted to be president less than anyone i knew in my entire life. he had no desire to run, says tag, who worked with his mother and to persuade his father to seek the presidency. if he could have found someone else to take his place, he would have been ecstatic to step aside. too bad he never told newt gingrich that. joining me now, msnbc's joy reed. i'm on the verge of feeling sorry for them, trying to come up with these crazy reasons about why he lost. and now they want to pretend that this guy who lived his whole life in order to run for president didn't really want to run for president. >> yeah, i know, lawrence. there is nothing more failing than failing to win something and say, i didn't want to win, anyway. w
was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government, and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote, and that strategy worked. >> that explanation got mitt romney attacked and condemned by the likes of bobby jindahl and other republicans. they're now trying a new approach. tag romney said this about his father. he wanted to be president less than anyone i knew in my entire life. he had no desire to run, says tag, who...
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how you care for the poor, how much government spends on the poor. they're very different and i think those philosophical differences are why they are really at loggerheads at this moment. the politics has not helped. right now, i think we're dealing with philosophy. >> absolutely. lisa, don't go anywhere. do we have ali velshi? is ali velshi there? ali? you have more coming up, i know. >> i do. i want to tell you about -- >> help me out here. they're not that far apart, are they? >> this is all politics. they're not that far apart. all the hard work has been done. and the danger of not getting a deal done far exceeds the danger of paying a little extra tax. i'll talk to you about that when i come back, don. >> see you after the break. >> all right. excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really? from the plane? yeah, i can manage my policy, get roadside assistance, pretty much access geico 24/7. soun
how you care for the poor, how much government spends on the poor. they're very different and i think those philosophical differences are why they are really at loggerheads at this moment. the politics has not helped. right now, i think we're dealing with philosophy. >> absolutely. lisa, don't go anywhere. do we have ali velshi? is ali velshi there? ali? you have more coming up, i know. >> i do. i want to tell you about -- >> help me out here. they're not that far apart, are...
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the government may be. what congress is doing that may have civil libertarians up in arms. >>> and a plea for help describing work conditions and it may be a hoax and dirty international politics. welcome to our viewers around the united states and around the world. wolf blitzer is off today. i'm candy crowley and you're in "the situation room." we begin with the latest fallout from this afternoon's big meeting at the white house. republican and democratic leaders at the house and senate met with president obama to discuss ways to avoid the hundreds of billions of dollars worth of tax increases and spending cuts that hit in just four days. the meeting broke up about 45 minutes ago. cnn radio capitol hill correspondent lisa awaited the leaders' arrival. lisa, let's talk about what we can look for out of this meeting. is there any chance at all to get a deal before the clock strikes midnight on the 31st. >>. >> reporter: right. i think the key player is mitch mcconnell to watch. we're getting potentially more
the government may be. what congress is doing that may have civil libertarians up in arms. >>> and a plea for help describing work conditions and it may be a hoax and dirty international politics. welcome to our viewers around the united states and around the world. wolf blitzer is off today. i'm candy crowley and you're in "the situation room." we begin with the latest fallout from this afternoon's big meeting at the white house. republican and democratic leaders at the...